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paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicareart d presiption drug befit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> comingup. team romne i pin president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazyed td aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was taught a lsond t morality of his conduct during the vietnam period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of a theer hhis are dependant on government. that is coming up. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! r your odd predilections! [ man ] it's evil! if you'd try it, you'd know. she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can have some? ♪ oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it'
paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicareart d presiption drug befit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> comingup. team romne i pin president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazyed td aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was taught a lsond t...
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i do understand what paul ryan is trying to say. the problem is, people like me can't go on and explain what they are doing. as richard said, they are going to have to get down to brass tax and specific. it's exhausting for republicans right now. i am at my wit's ends with this. i am hoping on wednesday governor romney will do this during the debate but this is the exact reason why we're losing and whether republicans like it or not, we're going to have to get things down to 140 characters and sound bites to put all over the media. this is the era we are living in and for whatever republicans and specifically this campaign continue to ignore that and it's just the realty of the times that we are losing in. >> so you are hoping that they can explain many of us are not there because they have not communicated. >> i think no matter how complex the issue is, which no one is saying this is an incredibly complex issue, they are going to have to narrow it down and make it digestible for average americans and they are not doing that right n
i do understand what paul ryan is trying to say. the problem is, people like me can't go on and explain what they are doing. as richard said, they are going to have to get down to brass tax and specific. it's exhausting for republicans right now. i am at my wit's ends with this. i am hoping on wednesday governor romney will do this during the debate but this is the exact reason why we're losing and whether republicans like it or not, we're going to have to get things down to 140 characters and...
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don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have you with us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, the obama campaign released a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jobs to a chinese company with sweat shop conditions during his time at bain capital. sherrod brown will be joining me on that and other issues. >>> and billionaires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelection. and they are starting to whine big time. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show." >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for wat
don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings...
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let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, we're going to have to explain your plans to the american people. take all the time you want. especially here on "the ed show." you guys have been complaining about media fairness preponderance let's talk it over. today paul ryan told a radio host in milwaukee why he wouldn't give chris wallace the math. >> i didn't want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing the channel. >> so nice of paul ryan to be concerned about chris wallace's ratings rather than presenting the e details of his plan to the voters. paul ry
let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat...
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate, and you talk about those things and i can argue as persuasively as i'm
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change...
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outfront again, paul ryan and mitt romney taking the stage since last night's debate. that, for most accounts, was a big win for their campaign. was it enough to change the dynamic of the race 33 days before the election? let's go to jim acosta at the rally in fishersville, virginia. trace adkins, i guess, is going to perform there. they're getting ready for a big, big blowout. >> reporter: that's right, erin. they are blowing this day up. you could say this is a #winningday for the romney campaign. trace adkins is on stage. and we saw the evidence of this all day long from the gop nominee, when he got on board his campaign plane earlier this morning. he was already cruising at a higher altitude, erin, chatting up his campaign staff. there was a smile on his face. and, honestly, erin, i've been covering this campaign for a year and a half. this was one of the happiest days that i've seen on the part of this campaign and its staff for some time. but you could tell that things were starting to change duri the day, as the prident was starting to mount that new offensive,
outfront again, paul ryan and mitt romney taking the stage since last night's debate. that, for most accounts, was a big win for their campaign. was it enough to change the dynamic of the race 33 days before the election? let's go to jim acosta at the rally in fishersville, virginia. trace adkins, i guess, is going to perform there. they're getting ready for a big, big blowout. >> reporter: that's right, erin. they are blowing this day up. you could say this is a #winningday for the...
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joe biden against paul ryan. event. you're going to get on basic cable. then the one, the president and mitt romney. this time foreign-policy. right nearby year. outside the city.
joe biden against paul ryan. event. you're going to get on basic cable. then the one, the president and mitt romney. this time foreign-policy. right nearby year. outside the city.
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ryan face-off. we will air that debate starting at 6:00. >>> developing news, and police are at the scene of a double homicide that may have resulted from a neighbor dispute. one man was taken from the scene in a police car. officers arrived after 6:00 to find two bodies on the front lawn of a house. a that i bore who lives across the street confronted the men with the firearm. >> a sheriff deputy shot a man in san jose. it happens near the busy cal trans station at about 5:30 tonight. abc7 news reporter uh -- ama dates is here to explain. >> we just learned he was a san jose resident and before he was shot he was on the tracks and acting erratically. the trouble began when an emergency call was made about a person lying on the tracks near cal trans station in san jose. a san mateo sheriff deputy was the first to arrive because their office patrols the 50-mile corridor. santa clara county came to assist when the suspect was found to be uncooperative and tried to take off on foot. the deputies follow
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romney unlocked paul ryan to a certain extent and now he can leverage him if ryan can get the space to talk about it in the debate. >> paul: mary. >> i think what you can expect from paul ryan, he will repeat over and over again, the 716 billion dollars in medicare cuts that obama is putting on people who are right now relying on medicare. and he will show, he will try to show that his plan will actually save medicare while obama will destroy it. i think that's his greatest edge and that's where he's going to go. >> paul: he's got a delicate task because i think he has to defend, jason, i think he has to defend romney against what will be biden's task even as he turns around and tries to go after the president's agenda while showing his own competence on substance, on these issues, that's a more complicated taste and biden is basically going to be all in assaulting romney. >> and i think that biden is going to want to talk foreign policy and i think the polls have shown that the president's doing good on that, not as well as he was, that gap has narrowed with the events in the middle e
romney unlocked paul ryan to a certain extent and now he can leverage him if ryan can get the space to talk about it in the debate. >> paul: mary. >> i think what you can expect from paul ryan, he will repeat over and over again, the 716 billion dollars in medicare cuts that obama is putting on people who are right now relying on medicare. and he will show, he will try to show that his plan will actually save medicare while obama will destroy it. i think that's his greatest edge and...
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home state of the republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan. after making his very first remarks since last night's showdown. >> we believe in a country where hard work pays off and where responsibility's rewarded and everybody's getting a fair shot and doing their fair share and everybody plays by the rules. that's what i'm fighting for. that's why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states and that's why i want your vote. >>> just in to cnn, a source tells our barbara starr at the pentagon a fbi investigative team has finally made it to the site of last month's deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. the fbi team was stalled for three weeks because of security concerns. that attack killed four americans including u.s. ambassador to libya chris stevens. stay right there. we'll be back at the top of the hour for a full analysis of each man's performance and what happens from here. but now, let me take you back to that debate. >> i think we have another clear difference between the two of you. now let's move to health
home state of the republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan. after making his very first remarks since last night's showdown. >> we believe in a country where hard work pays off and where responsibility's rewarded and everybody's getting a fair shot and doing their fair share and everybody plays by the rules. that's what i'm fighting for. that's why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states and that's why i want your vote. >>> just in to cnn, a source...
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he said for future generations like paul ryan, like me, when we retire, we'll get subsidy support from the government. it will match the level of medicare. if we want to stay on regular mode care, we can do that, or we have a choice. go out and buy private medicare. if you are very rich, my generation, you have to pay a little more. it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/ryan/rubio approach. >> that's fine. what is his approach? where is his plan to save medicare? it's going to go bankrupt, not just for my generation, but for my mom. what he is doing about it, other than taking $700 billion out of it. >> all right. we just lost that connection. but we'll try to reconnect with jim acosta and senator marco rubio and also about to see the highs and lows. ratings for the candidates from our focus group of undecided voters, we'll hear from them as well. also, you can see the debate again in its entirety, in just a little bit. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t. th
he said for future generations like paul ryan, like me, when we retire, we'll get subsidy support from the government. it will match the level of medicare. if we want to stay on regular mode care, we can do that, or we have a choice. go out and buy private medicare. if you are very rich, my generation, you have to pay a little more. it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the...
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if paul ryan doesn't get pushed, biden will be ready to go after him. in the last vice presidential debate i knew his stuff. even though as you showed in that clip he and mccain were good friends, he was aggressive in going after mccain and his friends. >> this was tuesday. >> why aren't you more specific i heard you sunday when you were on fox and you didn't answer his question about how we're going to you know what are your plans? >> oh, yeah, look, when you get in 0 a math conversation it can take a little while. >> steve, we've got time. >> you know, yeah, joe biden is going to step back and go take your time. go ahead, you know, we can listen. >> yeah, there is this famous s and l sketch from the 1988 election. and he said you got 1:30 and talk about what you do for the homeless problem. he says i don't have enough time there is so much to get to. you know what, we have stopped the clock for you. and he stairs. you wonder, the thing was, in the debate last night. obama had multiple opportunities to press romney and be specific on the math and prese
if paul ryan doesn't get pushed, biden will be ready to go after him. in the last vice presidential debate i knew his stuff. even though as you showed in that clip he and mccain were good friends, he was aggressive in going after mccain and his friends. >> this was tuesday. >> why aren't you more specific i heard you sunday when you were on fox and you didn't answer his question about how we're going to you know what are your plans? >> oh, yeah, look, when you get in 0 a math...
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look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they know than a republican from a party that never supported the program to begin with. >> let me go to joy on that. joy-ann, it seems to me that people who once you get into your late 60s, early 70s, into your 80s, you have one primary care, and that's what you're always talking about with your friends, how is your health? how is it going? you're social life in many ways is going to see the doctor. you have to survive, see your kids and grandkids. you don't walk away and say i'd like to cut it but i don't like his health care program. it's pretty hard to separate. >> the most remarkable t
look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they...
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ryan face-off. we will air that debate starting at 6:00. >>> developing news, and police are at the scene of a double homicide that may have resulted from a neighbor dispute. one man was taken from the scene in a police car. officers arrived after 6:00 to find two bodies on the front lawn of a house. a that i bore who lives across the street confronted the men with the firearm. >> a sheriff deputy shot a man in san jose. it happens near the busy cal trans station at about 5:30 tonight. abc7 news reporter uh -- ama dates is here to explain. >> we just learned he was a san jose resident and before he was shot he was on the tracks and acting erratically. the trouble began when an emergency call was made about a person lying on the tracks near cal trans station in san jose. a san mateo sheriff deputy was the first to arrive because their office patrols the 50-mile corridor. santa clara county came to assist when the suspect was found to be uncooperative and tried to take off on foot. the deputies follow
ryan face-off. we will air that debate starting at 6:00. >>> developing news, and police are at the scene of a double homicide that may have resulted from a neighbor dispute. one man was taken from the scene in a police car. officers arrived after 6:00 to find two bodies on the front lawn of a house. a that i bore who lives across the street confronted the men with the firearm. >> a sheriff deputy shot a man in san jose. it happens near the busy cal trans station at about 5:30...
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mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. >>> devastating new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign. >> i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility. >> richard wolffe on how aggressive the president needs e to be on the 47% tape. >>> mitt romney's billionaire base is starting to lose their cool. >> we need leadership, not criticism. we need encouragement, not discouragement. >> e.j. deon on why billionaires who do so well under obama can't stand the president. >>> and democrats with a victory for voters in pennsylvania, but republican voter fraud is getting swept under the rug here in colorado. tonight the latest on the rnc's voter fraud scandal. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watch
mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. >>> devastating new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign....
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a signature issue of mitt romney's runningmate paul ryan which brings us to this week's big question. was mitt romney's choice of ryan mass take? >> yes. -- a mistake? >> yes. >> i don't think so because it brought renewed focus and attention on the economy and debt which may have helped him in some camps. >> good for the future of the party, not so helpful necessarily this time around. even though he's a very cale capable politician. i think rob portman in ohio becomes a question. he could have helped in ohio, perhaps you could argue that and ohio is really something romney needs. >> he forced the seniors to think about what they like about medicare and the welfare state and they decided they liked it. and that's -- chris: that's well said. i hear doctors, the people don't -- they get very nervous when you talk about changing their insurance. >> even if you say it only applies to people under 55. >> the pick hurt him in florida and didn't help in ohio and he's got to win those states to be president. chris: i think ryan hurts. thanks for a great round table. congratulations to hbo an
a signature issue of mitt romney's runningmate paul ryan which brings us to this week's big question. was mitt romney's choice of ryan mass take? >> yes. -- a mistake? >> yes. >> i don't think so because it brought renewed focus and attention on the economy and debt which may have helped him in some camps. >> good for the future of the party, not so helpful necessarily this time around. even though he's a very cale capable politician. i think rob portman in ohio becomes...
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paul ryan is a domestic gu he doesn't do a lot of foreign policytuff. by not talking about it, it lets obama off the hook a little bit because there is this problem of what happens next after the surge over? you know, what happens with pulling outhe oo do we pull them out earlier like bill young is talking about? do we keep them in longer in that debate is not happening. you know, i don't think either candidate, frankly, probably had a particularly good answer for th. i k 'st of why we're seeing neither one of them really engaging hard on what's going to happen next in the war. >> the president is talking about the new tower on the new york skyline. that tower is not done. talking about savings from ending t war in afghanistan. that waroesn't end until the end of 201 anybody running against somebody who's taking those positions provided they had the slightest bit of confidence in our own position, it seems like a place to go. but i wonder if you see the romney campaign potentially bringing somebody else on who can handle it? any sort oheaveight >> ty co
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paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for a fund-raiser tonight. and as for the vice president, we check in with msnbc news campaign embed carrie dan. she's embedded with vice president joe biden's team. carrie, vice president biden's schedule shows him to be in wilmington, delaware, right now, and for the next few days. what is planned for him? >> that's right, milissa. he's going to be doing his own debate camp there, up until a day before the debate. he's spending time with chris van hollen, that's his sparring partner. van hollen has worked with paul ryan, he's a democrat from maryland, who worked with ryan with and against on the house budget committee. so van hollen is someone who's very familiar, not only with his policies. so the two of them will be participating in mock debates. they've done two to date, and i'm sure they'll be doing a lot more up until wednesday, before they head to danville, kentucky, for the big night. >> what is the biggest concern for mr. biden and his team? >
paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for a fund-raiser tonight. and as for the vice president, we check in with msnbc news campaign embed carrie dan. she's embedded with vice president joe biden's team. carrie, vice president biden's schedule shows him to be in wilmington, delaware, right now, and for the next few days. what is planned for him? >> that's right, milissa. he's going to be doing his own debate camp there, up until a day before the...
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first, paul ryan's video diary fox news's expert analysis and the debate auto tuned. when it doesn't fit anywhere else, we put it in the viewfinder. >> paul ryan video diary. party time. you ever have a butt cheek problem in the morning. you're going to vomit? >> bring on rates. simplify the code. >> find out if mitt romney has momentum on his side and we'll talk about with some experts like michelle madson, larry the cable guy. >> you could see at the end of that debate, anniversary or not michelle wanted to go home with mitt. >> obama: double down. >> romney: simplify the code. >> obama: double down. >> steak baby. you have a guitar and a song about my favorite color. space monkey -- >> current republican nominee mitt romney. mitt, come on out. [ applause ] >> i must say in person, you're even more handsome. >> what a kind and thoughtful thing to say. especially to a guest who is so reticent to appear on your late night television program. >> they'll be getting a severance and others if they so choose, can receive some employment assistance where they'll be getting
first, paul ryan's video diary fox news's expert analysis and the debate auto tuned. when it doesn't fit anywhere else, we put it in the viewfinder. >> paul ryan video diary. party time. you ever have a butt cheek problem in the morning. you're going to vomit? >> bring on rates. simplify the code. >> find out if mitt romney has momentum on his side and we'll talk about with some experts like michelle madson, larry the cable guy. >> you could see at the end of that...
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you would be sticking him with the paul ryan budget before he picked paul ryan. >> i'm giving myself fridays off. >> not quite fridays off but it did make the job more straight forward. and george thorus pledged more money to you today. why did he do that today and why didn't he do that before and what is the consequence of that? >> the consequence is that -- >> does it bring other rich democrats who gave to him, does it bring them out of the woodwork? >> is this the moment where we need to get involve snd. >> we are getting into this period where you are at the last moment where big investments are voting in the race. iowa is voting today. you can make investments in television add ver advertisements. i think a lot of democrats are feeling the election is here and even though mitt romney has not performed very well over the last two weeks, the president is barely knocking on 50% in the last two weeks. democrats are feeling the pressure and are concerned. >> when people are talking about giving maybe a seven figure donation, you were on the campaign side of it with normal donors year
you would be sticking him with the paul ryan budget before he picked paul ryan. >> i'm giving myself fridays off. >> not quite fridays off but it did make the job more straight forward. and george thorus pledged more money to you today. why did he do that today and why didn't he do that before and what is the consequence of that? >> the consequence is that -- >> does it bring other rich democrats who gave to him, does it bring them out of the woodwork? >> is this...
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but the question is this, which paul ryan will show up? the new paul ryan since he got the nomination, much more reserved? or the older paul ryan when he was the house budget committee chairman, very tough, very feisty. >> i think paul ryan is going to show up one that's briefed, prepared, ready to go on this momentum. i agree joe biden is a good debater, but he's also rusty. the last debate he had was against sarah palin. i think debating paul ryan and sarah palin are two completely different animals. and we haven't seen him do a lot of debating. so, you know, let's hope that he doesn't show up as rusty. if not, it will really build on republican momentum. and i think it will change the tone of this race. two debates where the republicans can really change it. >> a lot of the president's supporters didn't think he spent enough time preparing for this debate. romney spent a lot more time preparing than the president did. how much time between now and next thursday should the vice president spend? get rid of his campaigning and start practi
but the question is this, which paul ryan will show up? the new paul ryan since he got the nomination, much more reserved? or the older paul ryan when he was the house budget committee chairman, very tough, very feisty. >> i think paul ryan is going to show up one that's briefed, prepared, ready to go on this momentum. i agree joe biden is a good debater, but he's also rusty. the last debate he had was against sarah palin. i think debating paul ryan and sarah palin are two completely...
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romney puts paul ryan on the ticket. they're going to have a big conversation about entitlements, we have that for 48 hours. >> let me stop you there, truth is going to be on trial, won't that have to be up to the candidates? i don't belive the moderators will be fact-checkers in this debate. >> that's part of the problem in the environment that we're in. as we saw in the middle east and libya, everyone views the truth through their own prism and doesn't accept reality if it disagrees where they are. i don't think the moderator is going to do that. i think both sides are going to accuse the other side of not sharing the facts. they're both going to do that. at some point, they have to be called on it. they have to tell the truth to the american public. >> who makes that decision is the voters. i think voters are going to start penalizing people who don't cooperate. to throw in a little partisan barb, republicans wouldn't pass the president's jobs bill. this isn't about obama's record. this is about what's going on in was
romney puts paul ryan on the ticket. they're going to have a big conversation about entitlements, we have that for 48 hours. >> let me stop you there, truth is going to be on trial, won't that have to be up to the candidates? i don't belive the moderators will be fact-checkers in this debate. >> that's part of the problem in the environment that we're in. as we saw in the middle east and libya, everyone views the truth through their own prism and doesn't accept reality if it...